Is this progressive Christianity or repackaged prejudice?

Let’s look at the facebook group ‘Christians Against Zionism’, a pro-Stephen Sizer facebook group which urges Christians to oppose Christian Zionism, which the group considers as ‘heresy’.

The group tells you:

“If you join this group you might be accused by some as being “Anti-Semitic.”
However, just because Bible Christians oppose Christian Zionism does not mean that they are anti-Jewish or anti-Semitic as some people wrongly think.”

So is this a group of progressive, 21st century Christians who are modern day anti-Zionists?

Here are some photos from the group:

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These photos, and the accompanying comments, suggest that the Star of David is somehow Satanic (indeed it is ‘666’ due its 6 points, 6 inner triangles and 6 outer triangles), and further suggest a Judeo-Masonic world conspiracy which is being supported by Christian Zionists. To make their point, these Christian “anti-Zionists” are quite happy to quote from the Book of Revelation out-of-context: a tactic which they continuously accuse the Christian Zionists of using.

One of the group administrators is Eileen Fleming, a friend of Stephen Sizer, who has previously marched alongside Holocaust deniers.

Meanwhile, the group’s founder Alexander Gillan posted this link to an article explaining the Protocols of the Elders of Zion.

To many people this is all too reminiscent of medieval-style religious bigotry, and suggests a theological hatred which goes hand in hand with replacement theology.

Before they try to solve the Middle East, perhaps these Christian “anti-Zionists” have some soul-searching of their own to do?

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17 responses to “Is this progressive Christianity or repackaged prejudice?

  1. eileenfleming

    YOU have SLANDERED me and have NOTHING to back you up.

    I STAND BY MY WORDS-

    CITE Chapter and Verse from ANYTHING I have posted on that site OR

    on my site

    any article i have ever written!

    DO NOT accuse me of what i have NO responsibility in-SLANDER is punishable by LAW and I have LOTS of friends in that business!

    Eileen Fleming, Founder WAWA:
    http://www.wearewideawake.org/
    Author “Keep Hope Alive”
    “Memoirs of a Nice Irish American ‘Girl’s’ Life in Occupied Territory”
    Producer “30 Minutes With Vanunu” and “13 Minutes with Vanunu”

  2. j.r.

    It’s interesting that Alexander Gillan, who is promoting the Protocols of the Elders of Zion in the interests of “exposing the forces behind Zionism”, identifies himself as a fan of George Galloway. Although it is very unpleasant to come across a group such as this promoting race-hate, Facebook may be providing a service to anti-racists by revealing these links between religious racists and those who claim to represent the left. It is also instructive that anti-Zionists are now openly declaring themselves to be anti-Jewish, thus revealing the falsehood of the claim that anti-Zionism is not anti-Semitism.

  3. seismicshock

    Eileen, why don’t you remove the offending photos, comments and narrative from the group? Then I’ll also remove this post.

  4. eileenfleming

    I stand by my words.

    You have cited an event that happened 1 1/2 years ago when I was INVITED to speak on Vanunu’s birthday about his continuing captivity.

    Little Green Footballs is NOT a pro-freedom of speech site, much less pro-Palestinian Human Rights.

    My banning from the Daily Kos can be read through my homepage.

    A Palestinian Muslim friend warned me not to go near the Protocols-it was a bunch of BS and I have never read a page of it, or any body’s take on it.

    I AVOID IT.

    I do INVITE you and your crew to click on what I am talking about today.

    I am not just The Agitator, I am The Disseminator

    And today, i offer the First Face Book: NOT a GROUP! And Only for SUPPORTERS of Vanunu

    http://www.wearewideawake.org

    xoxe

    learn more about my brother in JC, a captive in Jerusalem; a 21st century Jeremiah, Job and Jonah

  5. eileenfleming

    PS-As I did NOT post what you find offensive, it is not my concern.

    I stick by my words and what I post.

    READ me and then-let’s dialogue.

  6. seismicshock

    Eileen – you are an administrator of the group ‘Christians Against Zionism.’ Why do you allow such blatantly antisemitic imagery to be associated with your name?

    If you’re not comfortable with the group then leave it, or at least step down from your role as a group administrator.

    Otherwise you can do us all a favour by removing the antisemitic links on the group – I implore you to do so, Eileen, in the interest of peace and fairness.

    By the way, why did you march with Holocaust deniers?

  7. John Stott

    Eileen Fleming is a self-engrosed Jew-hater, only she hasn’t got the integrity or the intelligence to recognise and admit it. Carry on lying to yourself Eileen, you have such a high opinion of yourself.

  8. John Stott

    Eileen what words do you stand by “Seig Heil”!

  9. Sababa

    Eileen marched with Holocaust deniers because, however much she denies it, she is part of a movement which is unconcerned about anti-Semitism and indeed is one of its main catalysts. The photos on the Facebook group and Eileen’s reluctance to take responsibility for them, even though she is the group adinistrator, simply confirms this.

  10. seismicshock

    I think we’ll have to come up with a term for people who deny their links with Holocaust deniers!

  11. eileenfleming

    MY WORDS re: why i went to the conference, what i said and what happened and WHY:

    WAWA Blog:

    Oct. 13, 2007 and Oct. 16, 2007

    http://www.wearewideawake.org/

  12. eileenfleming

    And once more, i am ONLY responsible for MY WORDS and I stand by them.

    I challenge you all to cite chapter and verse of ANYTHING i have ever written or published to back up your slander against me.

    Eileen Fleming, Founder WAWA:
    http://www.wearewideawake.org/
    Author “Keep Hope Alive”
    “Memoirs of a Nice Irish American ‘Girl’s’ Life in Occupied Territory”
    Producer “30 Minutes With Vanunu” and “13 Minutes with Vanunu”

  13. Dexy's Midnight Runner

    Come on Eileen, Denial is not just a river in Egypt!

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  15. Glasspole

    The group warns people not to appear “positive towards Jews”. These are not antiSemites, they are satanists.
    After all, their “Jesus” is clearly NOT the New Testament Jesus, who was a Torah Observant Jew. He is ANOTHER Jesus. Galatians 1 tells us how to view those with “another Jesus”. They are to deemed anathema.
    This group of vile people are those whose actual “Jesus” is none other then the ANTIChrist

  16. Omri

    Lie down with dogs, wake up with fleas, Eileen.

  17. Christian Zionist

    Thanks seismic shock for exposing Stephen Sizer and his cronies.
    I’ve just looked up their group on Facebook.
    One of the members recently posted a link to another Facebook group
    ‘We support Richard Williamson’ – the Holocaust-denying Roman Catholic priest.

    http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=43475634141#

    Vile satanic scumbags.

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